to send a powerful signal, the obama administration, to china and north korea. if you send a lower level person out there, that signal is going to be missed. they understand when the vice president tells the japanese, south koreans, hey, this is what's going on and then he goes and meets with the chinese, that has a much more powerful impact. >> how about flying the b-52s over? that sent a very strong signal as well. >> you also want to send a strong message to north korea right now. >> we need a northwest pacific treaty organization that has memberships including taiwan that is able to act coherently as an alliance with the united states not having to be the point of contact every time. we need collective security, not -- >> don't forget, this administration's foreign policy has been the pivot to asia. this has been their, you know, number one priority until it wasn't, right? >> right. >> i think it behooves the vice president to go over there -- >> thepivoting to asia means it the end of the cold war, the soviet union is not our biggest single foreign policy challenge. it is china. it'